Plastic Figure Round Up: Plastic Platoon, Crowd Funding, Schleich More are some of the items we will start this month off with. First two sets are out from Plastic Platoon. Next we update on the crowdfunding that is being done by Hat Indutries. A look at 2018 Schleich catalog find us with disappointments. I will share two items I had not seen before.
Plastic Figure Round Up: Plastic Platoon, Crowd Funding, Schleich More Plastic Platoon
Two Plastic Platoon set are ready for sale this week. First one is the Vietcong Infantry. This set has six different figures.
The other are the North Vietnamese Army also six poses. I would watch Ebay for dealers to start offering these figures.
Plastic Figure Round Up: Plastic Platoon, Crowd Funding, Schleich More Schleich 2018
I have received from Peter Evans the 2018 Schleich catalog and it disappointing. All the knights have been removed. what remains are basically animals, dragon and dinosaurs. Schleich also continues their superhero line with two for Marvel. We will have to see if Papo continues their knight other figures.
Plastic Figure Round Up: Plastic Platoon, Crowd Funding, Schleich More Hat Crowdfunding
Mike Pendergast informed me the status of crowdfunding project by Hat. Hat is working on doing crowdfunding to make 1/32 scale Seven Years War Austrians. Mike tells me that they are 60% toward their goal. If you are interested you can go to the Hat site for more information. Also you can go to Mike’s site for more information as well.
Plastic Figure Round Up: Plastic Platoon, Crowd Funding, Schleich More Vehicles
You think with all the shows I have done over the years I have seen everything. The truth is I am still seeing new items. The helicopter was bought in a lot. I thought that it was by Processed Plastic. Imagine my surprise to find it was by Gay Toys. I have seen a number of Gay toy civilian items this was the first military item from this company.
The other item is the MPC DUKW. I have not seen this item before. the figures with it are wrong. Have you seen this item before?
the MPC odd DUKW has been reissue
https://littlegreenmentoys.com/MPC-DUKW-landing-craft-07-DUKW.htm
Argentina bran copied it as well exactly.
They GAY helicopter is not only army toy they did ,they did a truck a jeep and a plane.I have all vintage and one reissue from Mexico where mold are and sold by two dealers least as off now in ebay.they are sold at party supply stores in Mexico all over places .
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Ok sorry been a bit pain ,but i will use one post per link with easy quicky sample of GAY army toys.
So far i know the jeep,pick up and one other different helicopter were done in others non army colors as well.
The mexico reissued version are sold in many colors.
Jeep ,more x action figure scale made .
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1980s-9-Plastic-Toy-Military-Jeep-Gay-Toys-GI-JOE-compatible-USA-Made/152922666927?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649
As I said in the post, until this past sunday I had not run into them before. It is matter of the draw.
Here is the only WW2!? and/or actually pre WW2(for US ) era plane they did as far i know.
P/38/40 TO P52!!?? RARE odd variant .
I like to know if this type model was ever done in reality.!!?
The wings are those of the MP39 s but some features are amix from others.
Done for 1/35/32 scale approx.
Here is a vintage sale sample .
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-EXCELLENT-WWII-P-51-P-40-MODEL-GAY-TOYS-c-1968-WARHAWK-Airplane-951/272773337566?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649
The plane i got from Mexico reissues and very abundant as vintage is this that resemble very close a Taylorcraft L-2 Grasshopper used in WW2,Korea and vietnam .
Recommended for Vietnam scenes as well.It is 1/32-1/30 scale approx.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gay-Toys-Large-Green-Army-75th-Recon-Plane-Model-610-13-1-2-Wingspan/323105186367?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649
Another helicopter and was done for same scales series of late GAY big toy action figures is this ..
This was done and sold as companion of Jeep
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Tank-and-Army-Helicopter-Gay-Toys-Inc-785/202243253434?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649
Again reissued in Mexico as well .Was sold as vintage in many other colors as well such blue x police and red/white x rescue.
I had not found an ebay sample of truck and a speed boat that as done in other colors apprat for army/military OD colors .
Sorry..
Both the truck and the boat are x 1/32 scale.
I have both reissued and once dig out will do photos as well.
While another vietnam era action figures scale big plane sample they did is here.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/G-I-Joe-3-75-Gay-Toys-Inc-Plastic-Jet-Vintage-Blue-complete-Fits-3-3-4-Figures/202210881918?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649
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The 50 cals on the duck are cool!
They were reisstued too. I’m ended picking up over 100 then w MPC cool machine gun triood and the marx Wheel x all training center vehicles from Marx.they where in Miami. Former warehouse og Marx and MPC stuff. All where in black colors.
But scale is larger tha. 1/32.
Is about w 70/75 mm soldiers
I got a lot in bags among with MPC houndred AWI and resold most later at shows x cheap price.
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Whoever Plastic Platoon uses as their sculptor has got to be one of the most creative, brilliant artists around. The poses he comes up with are totally original. They are completely different than the standard poses we toy soldier collectors are used to seeing. At the same time, the positions he designs them in are always very natural looking, with dynamic action.
The HAT Austrians also look very good. One thing that always made HAT exceptional was that for every army, HAT would release a set of action/firing poses, followed by a command set, and then followed by a set of marchers. It was an absolutely perfect way to allow collectors to build a realistic Napoleonic army. I’m hoping HAT’s resumption of it’s 1/32 scale sets works out for them. They really were excellent figures in a quality soft plastic at a very economical price.
Two completely different visions of “toy soldiers” and an interesting comparison between the styles. Dynamic action / battle poses vs stiff, virtually inert figures (ho-hum).
TD, I think you’re comparing apples to oranges. I would agree with you if the HaT set was depicting anything after the American Civil War. The 7YW was in a time when tactics were more formal. This is depicting a command set in a massed formation scenario. You might get more dynamic poses in a melee situation – but that was only after both armies maneuvered to close in with each other and many times one of the armies broke and fled before it came to that. Even in the American Revolution it was Washington’s ambition to prove to the world (Europe) that he could defeat the British in a set-piece battle such as these figures depict rather than a “hit-and-run” raid like Trenton, which is how Europe dismissed the important victories that Christmas.
Modern combat is more static and lends itself to more dynamic poses such as Plastic Platoon offers. There is no doubt PP represents a new standard of excellence in sculpting, but my own opinion is HaT does an excellent job of presenting the “musket era” of warfare at an affordable price.
For my own tastes, I love modern scenarios for their action but there’s something awesome about the sight of massive formations of troops marching in unison spread across the field in the beautiful uniforms of the day. I think both companies capture the feel of their conflicts quite well. But to each his own and I don’t think there is a wrong or right opinion on the matter. Just a matter of personal taste.
I hope I’m not coming off argumentative or anything negative, I re-read my post and sometimes the tone doesn’t read the way it was intended.
I agree with the poses Hat facts Wayne.
I had mention same before repeatedly too and others blogs as well
The tactic and drills used from late XVI till mid /late XIX were specific as that.
Most forces implemented the march till close enough to face accuracy and range of muskets in march formation.
Even when close enough ,only the first two rows actually engage at firing with first row firing and second at ready while others back keep muskets/weapons at shoulder or against body. Even by US Civil war in fast march movement from one position to others soldiers run with it at shoulders.
So in reality unless you are making skirmish all battles require over two third with marching or musket/weapon in not forward or firing-ready position.
The kneeling poses being for certain line ,not column firing and for square formation as well for skirmish.
The poses with bayonets should be barely used or present in a column x only those of first row,it was very odd use entire column in with bayonet fix also as the one back will hurt the one at front once the front clash start.
The long bayonet in close formation act as spear with length of musket as spearhead of intimidation massive steel while those back will use the close shot firing in melee or just use the muskets. Maneuver with bayonets in close encounter will be very dangerous with others very near you of your same army and soldiers of the era where not expert in blade fighting at all.
So this should be take in consideration ,that even when a 4 rank deep line or in a column fast march with bayonets fix ,only two first lines/rows front had then fix ,not others who will carry musket at shoulder still while performing this action until they turn to replace front losses else.
HAT did this with every army period set they did before ,by doing a correct march sets and action loading- firing set right after plus many command sets.
The HAT figures today are made for wargamers and real battles large scale ideally intended and very historical accurate ,not made for children to play as we did when Marx and others lack the action poses in many sets. But ironic place many marching poses that in battle drills of the times represented were indeed correct.
Others makers such ACCURATE,AIP,BARZSO had made more skirmish typical action poses sets .
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I’m not an expert on military tactics nor a war-gamer, so the static poses used for that purpose just seem boring to me. That’s all.
TD, you don’t have to be an “expert” on “military tactics” to understand that before the 20th Century the Greeks, Romans, along with 17th Century pre and post Napoleonic armies tended to fight in uniform lines and formations. To a great extent, this was true even in our own American Civil War.
All you have to do is rent the DVD “Waterloo” starring Rod Steiger & Christopher Plummer, and you will quickly see what tactics these armies used. Or try the movies “Gettysburg” or “Troy” with Brad Pitt.
Their tactics were not “static” in any normal sense of the word. They all involved firing, loading, advancing with fixed bayonets, marching, wheeling, defending at the ready, etc. It’s just that the movement was uniform along the whole length of the line, to take advantage of the strength and power offered by a formation.
When recreating these eras of warfare, toy soldier manufacturers like HAT are creating the historically correct poses of these fighting formations. Having them all posed like individual Viet Cong jungle fighters in the latter part of the 20th Century would be ridiculous.
Can’t you understand this? Geesh!
I understand the point and i think is a personal like and view ,if not like stiff poses then maybe Barzso,AIP and others such new Petit guerrero brand figures are more in your like .
But definitely for skirmish scenarios not typical order battle of the time.
So both sides have a good point and personal choice in my opinion.
Is a matter of personal like flavor.
my thoughts
Just giving an opinion about the figures.
First big revolution was CONTE in 2000,
now it’s PLASTIC PLATOON 2018!
What?! NO comments?!
I guess there is no revolution in plastic after all?!
Sad.
There’s definately a revolution in plastic not only in 1/32 and 54mm scale figures. There has also been a boom in 28mm plastics-not just historics-but also fantasy figures.
Plastic Platoon has made some amazing sets! I have picked up all of them and am looking forward to the VC and NVA.
My hope is that Mikhail doesn’t stop there. How about an all action all women Viet Cong set? Sappers maybe.
How about a LRRP set? Or a few LRRP sets? Mars has made some Vietnam war sets, but are lacking in detail in my opinion.
I want to paint the Plastic Platoon sets that I have and will send in some photos. Cheers!
Plastic Platoon, EB, and PVBLIVS have up the ante. Not since Conte GI’s and Spartans have we got this quality.
Those Plastic Platoon figures look great. If I collected that theme, I would definitely pick those up. And for the price of around $55.00 for 6 figures the sculpting better be that good.
I am glad that Hat is trying to make some more 1/32 figures again. Thank you Paul for mentioning this and the article on my page. I think the design of these figures looks great. Like others here have said, these poses fit the era. The details look really good on the figures. For about $15.00 for 18 figures, this is a steal these days. I purchased 10 boxes, I might even get some more. These figures could also be used as Hessian mercenaries for the British during the American Revolution too. I hope this project does get funded. The last few attempts crowdfunding have failed mainly because the lack of time and promoting from Hat Inc.
I like the 2 finds you made in the wild Paul. There is something new or different around the corner. Thanks again, Mike.
Have to admit I heavent hard Of gay toys
Scroll down alphabetically for Gay Toys on Kent’s site:
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/toysoldierhq/OtherUSA1.html
The Gay toys inc is better know and active today since late 70s as American plastic toy inc .Many of toys sold at Kmart,FM,DG,WM and other main retailers of not license/ comic charters/rights are made by it.It is only main greater US toy maker here today with most toys parts made in US,not imported or abroad.
The main link web site is this.
http://www.americanplastictoys.com/about-us
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Hat crowdfunding stage # 6 means as follow .
The Stages of Development and Production are:
Explanation of red bars:
01) Research of uniforms and design of set.
02) Sketches are drawn.
03) Sculpting starts.
04) Sculpting ends.
05) Pattern making starts and ends.
06) Mold making starts.
07) Mold making continues.
08) Mold making continues.
09) Fitting of mold.
10) Testing of mold.
11) Production begins!
So far the list of following past crowdfunding canceled are these in both scales.
http://www.hat.com/Crowd.html
Hope they can make it this time ,still is a long way as mold parts only started…
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Hat has approved production of the three Seven Years War Austrian Infantry sets. There is no release date yet. Production is at Stage 5. (Crowdfunding is at level 6.)
#9329 7YW Austrian Fusiliers
#9330 7YW Austrian Grenadiers #9331 7YW Austrian Command