Pvblivs Update Trappers German Knights

Pvblivs Update Trappers German Knights  we have an update on Pvblivs Trappers and a new set coming.  The information comes from Maxim of Russia. The first part is the new color for the trappers.  The second is a new set of six figures of Germany knights.

Pvblivs Update Trappers German Knights  New Color

Pvblivs Update Trappers German Knights  We had previousily showcased these figures.  Some people were commented that the figures were showing up on Ebay in red.  Maxim has informed the American trappers are in a new color. The color is gray which we have already shown.

Pvblivs Update Trappers German Knights German Knights

Pvblivs Update Trappers German Knights

Maxim also sent along photos of an upcoming set German knights minstrels. According to one article that I read the minstrels or Minnesingers were knights not of high noble birtth. These knights roved lands with songs and poetry when not fighting.

Pvblivs Update Trappers German Knights

The set has six figures.  In the first photo we have knight with mace and shield. Next is knight with sword at shoulder height and shield looking to the left. finally we have knight with broadsword. A broadsword can be between 30 to 45 inches.  The medieval sword weights between three to four pounds. It was used for close contact.

Pvblivs Update Trappers German Knights

Pvblivs Update Trappers German Knights

Our second photo shows  the German knights with different axes.  First knight is standing with axe overhead and shield. Second knight is walking with two handed axe. He also has a shield.  Our final knight has a two handed axe. The axe is pointing toward the group. He also has a shield.

Pvblivs Update Trappers German Knights

Pvblivs has  done different helmet for each figure. The detail is  on the figures is amazing. At the moment we have no price or date when these figures will be released.

Pvblivs Update Trappers German Knights Correction

I may be able to shed a little light on this. This is exactly what I studied for my Master’s and Ph.D.–Germanic Philology (i.e. historical Germanic linguistics, mainly of the Medieval period).  I’ve read more old Germanic literature than you can shake a stick at. The writer of the article you mention is grossly misinformed.  So, I would like to add some clarification to what a Minnesänger was.  A Minnesänger was NOT, repeat, was NOT, a knight.  These are two very different crafts/occupations.  Anyone who was a Minnesänger would not have had the time, inclination, or skill to be a warrior, and vice versa.  In addition, I think the word ‘minstrel’ is a bit misleading.  Iit conjures up the image that we see in Robin Hood, Alan A’dale–a guy wandering from village to village with his instrument and singing.  Although some of them MAY have done that, most Minnesänger were  hired by a court and worked there.  

The wikipedia article gives a short, but good, explanation of this.

I hope this helps.

Yours,

Fritz

Thanks for the corrections  all I have to say is  when trying to find any information I got thrown to the Wikipedia article.

 

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18 Responses to Pvblivs Update Trappers German Knights

  1. ed borris says:

    Man, that must be a heavy helm with two axe blades attached to it, however, they are very nice figures, excellent sculpts. They are a fearsome looking group.

  2. Erwin says:

    The helmet ornaments were made of very light hollow wood .
    They were easy removable and often swap to feathers only x real combat.
    They often represent familiy voat if arms to whom they serve or belonging.
    Still cumbersome.Those helmet were typical of tournament armor mounted.Not for foot or even mounted real battle combat.They are wrong depicted.
    A mistake often made by many making medieval figures till now.
    I don’t know why they do simple research about helmets use in tournament and combat differences. Or just go to museums else.Often painting and tapestry show real helmets used in combat or in tournaments,same in wall engraved.By XV century many medieval battles were re made in painting by painters using simple imagination and not in accord with the reality,this often add to the confusing matters.
    Samurai often have armor show special custom ornate made ,not used in battle and those used in battles were more simple.
    In case of high ranking Lords or samurai ,shoguns they wore very heavy ornate armor as not quite seen any action in person on battle but directing it .They often carry several different armor sets in their belonging with servants.
    Very bad x today makers w so pricy figures.
    Best.

  3. Greg Liska says:

    Easily removed and if you’re careful, you can take them off in such a way that you can put them back on. On the other hand, you can just leave them on and enjoy it. we still see Vikings coming out with horned helmets. Those were also used only for various ceremonies.

    • Erwin says:

      I don’t know how much fun is to cut a figure set of 50.00 value or more.
      These makers of “historic replics ” figurines made base in tin metal statue should consider it before making as that.
      I had collect most this brand.this set I will skip because of it.
      My thoughts.
      Best.

  4. Greg Liska says:

    You need to trust your abilities before you cut and as conversion work goes, that is pretty easy work. Personally, I won’t pay that much for toy soldiers even if they are perfect. Few things make it into my collection without some sort of modification, anyhow.

  5. Daniel Murphy says:

    I don’t think a Russian maker could resist doing German knights with all the trappings. I think the image of elaborately helmed Teutonic knights is ingrained in the culture. Here is link to the famous charge of the Teutonic knights in Eisenstein’s Alexander Nevsky. Most of the knights are equipped in workmanlike fashion, but after 4.26 check out the head honchos:

    • Mark T. says:

      I first became aware of Alexander Nevsky when I first watched Ralph Bakshi’s animated fantasy “Wizards” when I was 12. Bakshi used a lot of old movie footage in the making of Wizards. I recognized scenes from Zulu and Patton and Battle of the Bulge. There were also these really cool knights in what I called “Death Dealer Helmets” after the Frazetta painting. It took a while bef0re I found out what the movie was called, and I actually did not get to see it until my mid teens when it came on a Canadian public television station. I would say Alexander Nevsky is my favorite black and white era film ever, and also my favorite foreign film.

  6. Greg Liska says:

    A great movie! Now THAT’S quality propaganda! I remember watching it in college.

  7. Daniel Murphy says:

    Yes, a lot of talent was involved, Eisenstein the director, Prokofiev the music, etc. A lot of it is still very powerful, such as the scenes of the Teutonic knights murdering captive townspeople, and of course the battle. Films like this raise interesting questions about art and totalitarianism. And of course, this particular film gives us indelible images of frightening German knights with elaborately horned helmets. (A lot of the Teutonic rank and file in this film are wearing a “medievalized” version of the stahlhelm.)

  8. Greg Liska says:

    The Knights done as Crusader by whatever company you want to call them, distributed by Steven’s Hobbies have some mounted poses worthy of a scene from the film. They also make Russian Knights so it’s a match made in frozen Hell. I think I have some battle ideas.

    • ERWIN SELL says:

      Britain have some knights with this type helmet as well,others makers in vintage had done it .Even in metal there plenty .

      In my opinion the film is a baloney propaganda made with special support from Stalin already in 1938 with expansion and war ideas toward west,baltics states and Germany in 1938 .The film clearly show the infantry with german helmets , but the Bucket helmet in most are clean up w not decor or horns but in very few,so not that bad at all i think.
      Yet showing massive dismounted knights fighting with shields and spears as typical infantry work.Not correct either.
      In reality out not even more 2800 in teutonic /baltic state crusades forces less than 600 were Germans and of those by all historical accounts less than 100 german mounted knights included teutonic knights only .Rest were mercenary dannes,Estonian and slaves from russia states that were not allied to Novgorod Republic.
      By both estonian and german accounts only mention 20 teutonic knights died and 6 were captured with 43 returning home by written accounts from manuscripts found in 1950s and 1980 .
      The images of armor in film in many cases is made up and not accurate at all. even the cross represented in film is not quite the most seen in real battle .The Livonian Brothers of the Sword order were the most in the crusades mounted knights of the force and they had different symbols.
      Russian are portrayed more correct with few exceptions were (“woman”) warrior represented with a made up appear to looks a budenovka with visor.
      The lack of mounted Russian knights and massive mounted-tartar archers in Russian side is also incorrect both clearly mentioned in Russian and Estonian accounts.
      The ice parts is not recorded by either historical account side ,it was made up by director.
      The film was made as to portray Soviets as “saviors of estonian estate” and rest baltic independent states they will invade in 1940 under Soviet regime as part of Staling aggressive campaign of forces communism expansion .It was preparation political indoctrinated film used .
      Ironical Russian director Sergei Eisenstein was himself a German -Estonian and Swedish descendant .
      Polish made film(Knights of the Teutonic Order)-another propaganda film about teutonic last era much later are better representation of Teutonic knights ,yet are from late period with other armor of course.
      The helmet used in russian film by teutonic master(not present in battle at all) was copied in certain way to be used in Conan de barbarian film in various scenes in modificated version .
      My thoughts.Best..

      • ERWIN SELL says:

        Early teutonic set by same manufacturer with 4 poses and flat soviet era battle of ice lake set were done much more correct in representation of german/estonian knights and men at arms .
        These new guys looks like statues from museums made up.
        my thoughts.
        best..

  9. Wayne W says:

    I remember first watching “Alexander Nevsky” in my Ancient Russian History class – great stuff. The same actor who played Nevsky in that film also played Ivan the Terrible in Eisenstein’s biography of him. The second installment of that biography got Eisenstein in hot water with Stalin as Ivan went from being Ivan the Good (prosecutor of the boyars and defender of the peasants “proletariat”) to Ivan the Terrible. I think the portrayal hit to close to home for Uncle Joe. Some great stuff, back to Nevsky, I remember the last soliloquy given by Nevsky warning “all who would dare invade Mother Russia.” We discussed whether that was a not-so-subtle warning to the Germans – in spite of their pretentions of friendship at the time the film was made?

    As to the ornate trimmings; those guys are going to be out of my park cost-wise, but if I were to think about plunking down that much cash for them I don’t think I’d let it bother me too much. Again, if I was doing an historical diorama for a museum I would make sure I had the buttons counted and rivets accounted for so far as was practical (3 – foot rule and all); but for private play or even gaming? Some beautiful figures to act as command maybe. Face it, at that price I’m not going to fill my ranks with dozens of them – use them as leaders, etc.; use less expensive figures that might even be more accurate and less ornate as rank and file. Going back to Biblical times there are records of kings and generals wearing ornate armor and/or uniforms as signs of rank or status. If you don’t want to carve up your figures taking the ornaments off what’s the harm in leaving them on? I won’t tell.

    • ERWIN SELL says:

      I collect two ways ,the old vintage out of curiosity and nostalgia as collection of specifically those made primarily (TOY soldiers) and second the new produced as to be historical accurate as not made x kids today .

      Most today making are actually x adult collectors that look accuracy above all.
      No even a week ago here not few jump out nuts because tiny patches arms in Viet nam war figures were incorrect and some weapons too small on figures as pricy as these.
      My point is base in entire set of fantasy not realistic hornet knights bucket helmets when better had been done.They looks funny and odd.I will not like spend a penny personally to then end cutting and sanding the helmets (an easy job i know ) but not worth after paying so much x it.The helmet horns/decor are above anacronic wrong done and much obvious that tiny wrong arm patches .Even the Supreme set of hornet helmets knights are call “Dragons & Knights Figure or Fantasy Knights set” by chinese makers .
      I can boy a bag of 14 of those in 12 poses and cut all horns x 10.00 at local hobby store easy too .
      So my observation least is not asking much but better than tiny things.
      Still i understand those that use any figure x any and cut ,convert else.
      or play .
      I do not play with figures ,i display then if time .For now my collection is storage in three houses and not time.One day maybe.
      yet i understand others point and to every one his like of course .For me there is not use on them.
      my thoughts.
      best..

  10. Greg Liska says:

    Same here. The Knights I have will suffice. I saw the second film about Ivan. They are a study in propaganda and therefore historic in and of themselves. Very few war movies, or any movies in that early day of cinema, were very accurate. No one needs to bust a neck vein about accuracy. There’s lots to enjoy and appreciate. The propaganda machines of the 30’s and 4o’s were really something.

  11. Daniel Murphy says:

    Eisenstein’s Ivan the Terrible Parts I and II are a fascinating study in art under a dictatorship. Stalin like the think of himself as a great Russian leader in the tradition of Ivan and Peter the Great. He encouraged Eisenstein, and part I, released in 1944, describing the early days of Ivan was rewarded with the Stalin Prize. But in part II, Eisenstein has Ivan descending into a sort of tyrannical madness, and Stalin was outraged. The film was canned, and not shown until after Stalin’s death. A part III was halted and all footage of that destroyed. Eisenstein died of a heart attack at the age of 50 in 1948. Maybe he escaped something worse. Here is a brilliant color scene from part II that made a huge impact on me when I saw it when I was college age. It is the dance of the oprichniki. These guys were Ivan’s equivalent of the NKVD or the SS; he used them to terrorize the landowning boyars. You can read the lyrics a couple minutes in. Music by Prokofiev. Imagine the feelings. the guts of people making this in Stalin’s Russia, what layers of meaning here:

  12. Wayne W says:

    He was definitely on the “outs” after Ivan.

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